[Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures

[Ryan Daum]

I don't suppose corks of this type are available to the amateur market
at all?  What if a group of amateurs were to buy together?

Ryan

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 17:14 -0400, mauro at ridgepointwines.com wrote:
> Paul
> 
> We at RIdgepoint wines decided not to go to screw caps. They have their 
> own set
> of problems that dont get mentioned too often.  You have to also ensure the
> capper is working properly to ensure there was a proper seal.  We moved to the
> Diam cork, which is considered a Technical Cork.  Its natural cork that been
> ground up, washed in a liquid co2 bath and then glued back together with an
> inert glue.  THis process also results in every cork being identical and
> therefore no bottle variations exists.  At the end of the day we have 
> cork that
> is guaranteed cork taint free and allows the wine to age gracefully.  In
> addition, cork supports cork farming and has a lower carbon footprint then
> screw caps
> 
> Mauro
> Ridgepoint Wines
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Paul Bulas <pabls at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > I will add that as a consumer, I have had okay luck with solid,
> > high-quality cork - although two recent good wines I bought had good
> > corks and ... they were badly corked!!  More and more I am getting
> > partial to the screwcap.  I definitely dislike synthetic corks - I
> > get a vinyl-like plasticky thing in many of the wines; reds taste
> > strangely thin under these plastic corks.  And besides, what do fake
> > corks do that a screwcap can't do better?
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: John
> > To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:26:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures
> >
> > Most of the manufacturers of synthetic corks originally had some
> > problems which may have ben addressed. The hard plastic corks
> > (Supreme?) were dificult to remove and provided too much of a seal. 
> > Noma had their share of problems as well. We tested them and had
> > oxidation problems, the skin curled up when inserted into the bottle,
> > leakers, etc. They now have resolved most of these issues, I believe. 
> > They have 4 different ones that I am familiar with. The cheapest is
> > really only for maximum 12 month storage so you have to choose the
> > correct one to suit your needs. Sabate made the Altec and had lots of
> > TCA problems that took years to resolve, but now they have a
> > reasonably priced synthetic called the Diam and I have used them as
> > an amateur for years. The KW Winemakers Club has gone through 20 or
> > 30 thousand of these with no problems that I am aware of. Several
> > wineries in the area use them.   At Kacaba, we use only good quality
> > corks (cost about $.50 ea). If we were to choose an alternative , we
> > woud go screw cap. We sell to a lot of licencees (restaraunts) and
> > they tell us that they and their customers prefer corks first, then
> > screw cap and finally synthetics.   John
> >
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> Mauro Scarsellone
> Ridgepoint Wines
> 3900 Cherry Avenue
> Vineland, ON
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