[Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures

[Terry Rayner]

Ryan, I know that you can buy from Ganau but it has to be a minimum of 1000. 
If you're interested I'll give you the contact info.

Terry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Daum" <ryan at darksleep.com>
To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures


>I don't suppose corks of this type are available to the amateur market
> at all?  What if a group of amateurs were to buy together?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 17:14 -0400, mauro at ridgepointwines.com wrote:
>> Paul
>>
>> We at RIdgepoint wines decided not to go to screw caps. They have their
>> own set
>> of problems that dont get mentioned too often.  You have to also ensure 
>> the
>> capper is working properly to ensure there was a proper seal.  We moved 
>> to the
>> Diam cork, which is considered a Technical Cork.  Its natural cork that 
>> been
>> ground up, washed in a liquid co2 bath and then glued back together with 
>> an
>> inert glue.  THis process also results in every cork being identical and
>> therefore no bottle variations exists.  At the end of the day we have
>> cork that
>> is guaranteed cork taint free and allows the wine to age gracefully.  In
>> addition, cork supports cork farming and has a lower carbon footprint 
>> then
>> screw caps
>>
>> Mauro
>> Ridgepoint Wines
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Paul Bulas <pabls at yahoo.com>:
>>
>> > I will add that as a consumer, I have had okay luck with solid,
>> > high-quality cork - although two recent good wines I bought had good
>> > corks and ... they were badly corked!!  More and more I am getting
>> > partial to the screwcap.  I definitely dislike synthetic corks - I
>> > get a vinyl-like plasticky thing in many of the wines; reds taste
>> > strangely thin under these plastic corks.  And besides, what do fake
>> > corks do that a screwcap can't do better?
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: John
>> > To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:26:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures
>> >
>> > Most of the manufacturers of synthetic corks originally had some
>> > problems which may have ben addressed. The hard plastic corks
>> > (Supreme?) were dificult to remove and provided too much of a seal.
>> > Noma had their share of problems as well. We tested them and had
>> > oxidation problems, the skin curled up when inserted into the bottle,
>> > leakers, etc. They now have resolved most of these issues, I believe.
>> > They have 4 different ones that I am familiar with. The cheapest is
>> > really only for maximum 12 month storage so you have to choose the
>> > correct one to suit your needs. Sabate made the Altec and had lots of
>> > TCA problems that took years to resolve, but now they have a
>> > reasonably priced synthetic called the Diam and I have used them as
>> > an amateur for years. The KW Winemakers Club has gone through 20 or
>> > 30 thousand of these with no problems that I am aware of. Several
>> > wineries in the area use them.   At Kacaba, we use only good quality
>> > corks (cost about $.50 ea). If we were to choose an alternative , we
>> > woud go screw cap. We sell to a lot of licencees (restaraunts) and
>> > they tell us that they and their customers prefer corks first, then
>> > screw cap and finally synthetics.   John
>> >
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>>
>> Mauro Scarsellone
>> Ridgepoint Wines
>> 3900 Cherry Avenue
>> Vineland, ON
>> L0R 2C0
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