[Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures

[Terry Rayner]

We looked into the Diam cork and got samples from Gail Hildred but we 
weren't happy with the look of the cork.

Terry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Troop" <paul at vivezza.com>
To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures


> Diam is available through http://www.oeneoclosuresusa.com I believe you 
> have
> to purchase 1000. the price delivered should be about 20 - 25 cents.
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ryan Daum" <ryan at darksleep.com>
> To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures
>
>
>>I don't suppose corks of this type are available to the amateur market
>> at all?  What if a group of amateurs were to buy together?
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 17:14 -0400, mauro at ridgepointwines.com wrote:
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> We at RIdgepoint wines decided not to go to screw caps. They have their
>>> own set
>>> of problems that dont get mentioned too often.  You have to also ensure
>>> the
>>> capper is working properly to ensure there was a proper seal.  We moved
>>> to the
>>> Diam cork, which is considered a Technical Cork.  Its natural cork that
>>> been
>>> ground up, washed in a liquid co2 bath and then glued back together with
>>> an
>>> inert glue.  THis process also results in every cork being identical and
>>> therefore no bottle variations exists.  At the end of the day we have
>>> cork that
>>> is guaranteed cork taint free and allows the wine to age gracefully.  In
>>> addition, cork supports cork farming and has a lower carbon footprint
>>> then
>>> screw caps
>>>
>>> Mauro
>>> Ridgepoint Wines
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Paul Bulas <pabls at yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>> > I will add that as a consumer, I have had okay luck with solid,
>>> > high-quality cork - although two recent good wines I bought had good
>>> > corks and ... they were badly corked!!  More and more I am getting
>>> > partial to the screwcap.  I definitely dislike synthetic corks - I
>>> > get a vinyl-like plasticky thing in many of the wines; reds taste
>>> > strangely thin under these plastic corks.  And besides, what do fake
>>> > corks do that a screwcap can't do better?
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----
>>> > From: John
>>> > To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:26:12 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Growwine] Wine Bottle Closures
>>> >
>>> > Most of the manufacturers of synthetic corks originally had some
>>> > problems which may have ben addressed. The hard plastic corks
>>> > (Supreme?) were dificult to remove and provided too much of a seal.
>>> > Noma had their share of problems as well. We tested them and had
>>> > oxidation problems, the skin curled up when inserted into the bottle,
>>> > leakers, etc. They now have resolved most of these issues, I believe.
>>> > They have 4 different ones that I am familiar with. The cheapest is
>>> > really only for maximum 12 month storage so you have to choose the
>>> > correct one to suit your needs. Sabate made the Altec and had lots of
>>> > TCA problems that took years to resolve, but now they have a
>>> > reasonably priced synthetic called the Diam and I have used them as
>>> > an amateur for years. The KW Winemakers Club has gone through 20 or
>>> > 30 thousand of these with no problems that I am aware of. Several
>>> > wineries in the area use them.   At Kacaba, we use only good quality
>>> > corks (cost about $.50 ea). If we were to choose an alternative , we
>>> > woud go screw cap. We sell to a lot of licencees (restaraunts) and
>>> > they tell us that they and their customers prefer corks first, then
>>> > screw cap and finally synthetics.   John
>>> >
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>>>
>>> Mauro Scarsellone
>>> Ridgepoint Wines
>>> 3900 Cherry Avenue
>>> Vineland, ON
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