[Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?

[Paul Bulas]

Very true - and it would make sense, showing that making wine is largely about ... farming!  
I love the way that they use the words "wine farm" in South Africa quite a bit.  Everywhere else, the language tends to be more uppity.  Maybe tying in wine with farming would be a great first step in the right direction.
Is there anything other than red tape holding this back at present?



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From: melissa lounsbury <baileyandtrent2 at yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:48:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?


It would be nice to sell wine at the farmers market.We where at the one in St Jacobs an Ocalo had their wine for sale there. We sold a quanity of our vines this year to be made into juice an to be sold at the welland an Niagara farmers market. Maurice  



----- Original Message ----
From: Ryan <ryan.daum at gmail.com>
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:06:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?

This speaks to a bigger question, I think; while I like wine from
diverse regions and especially from close to home, I do think there is
probably a hard economic limit on the feasibility of wine production
"everywhere."  I think you touch on this, but it may be that beyond
the problems of the LCBO monopoly and regulatory problems in Ontario
there just isn't much of a market for wine that may be produced if
those regulations were to be loosened.

That said, I just wish it was possible to produce and market
small-scale wine in Ontario just like any other food product -- at
farmer's markets, etc.  I would love to have a couple acres of grapes
and make wine part-time, and be able to sell it to friends, at market,
etc.

Ryan

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Bulas <pabls at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lately I've been thinking that some of the obstacles to getting a true
> artisanal wine culture started across Ontario might stem from the overall
> views toward alcohol - in addition to the regulatory obstacles we discussed
> last week (e.g. 5-acre minimum, etc.).  We now have grape varieties that
> work across much of Central Ontario - so the viticultural difficulties are
> being fast addressed.  But what about the cultural aspects in general?
> Would an overall liberalization of views about public alcohol consumption
> help a fledgling artisanal wine industry?
>
> Each country has its unique history, but I can't help thinking that we in
> Ontario - and perhaps many more jurisdictions in North America - would do
> well to re-shape policies concerning public alcohol consumption along the
> lines of those seen in much of Europe.  I can't underestimate how necessary
> it is to bring quality artisanal wine and beer into the mainstream by
> emphasizing that these are culinary products; "art of the land", if you
> will.  Without a change in overal mentality, I think there will continue to
> be an uphill battle because artisanal wines will just be seen as a "special
> occasion" thing; a knick-knack; something you get for someone on their
> birthday or anniversary but nothing you'd ever dream of getting even just
> for yourself to have with supper.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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