[Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?

Kit & Gill Childs cgchilds at ns.sympatico.ca
Wed Jul 2 19:26:38 EDT 2008


Would "vine juice" be a tad woody?!!
Kit Childs, Annapolis valley

melissa lounsbury wrote:
> It would be nice to sell wine at the farmers market.We where at the 
> one in St Jacobs an Ocalo had their wine for sale there. We sold a 
> quanity of our vines this year to be made into juice an to be sold at 
> the welland an Niagara farmers market. Maurice 
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ryan <ryan.daum at gmail.com>
> To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:06:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the 
> battle?
>
> This speaks to a bigger question, I think; while I like wine from
> diverse regions and especially from close to home, I do think there is
> probably a hard economic limit on the feasibility of wine production
> "everywhere."  I think you touch on this, but it may be that beyond
> the problems of the LCBO monopoly and regulatory problems in Ontario
> there just isn't much of a market for wine that may be produced if
> those regulations were to be loosened.
>
> That said, I just wish it was possible to produce and market
> small-scale wine in Ontario just like any other food product -- at
> farmer's markets, etc.  I would love to have a couple acres of grapes
> and make wine part-time, and be able to sell it to friends, at market,
> etc.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Bulas <pabls at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:pabls at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > Lately I've been thinking that some of the obstacles to getting a true
> > artisanal wine culture started across Ontario might stem from the 
> overall
> > views toward alcohol - in addition to the regulatory obstacles we 
> discussed
> > last week (e.g. 5-acre minimum, etc.).  We now have grape varieties that
> > work across much of Central Ontario - so the viticultural 
> difficulties are
> > being fast addressed.  But what about the cultural aspects in general?
> > Would an overall liberalization of views about public alcohol 
> consumption
> > help a fledgling artisanal wine industry?
> >
> > Each country has its unique history, but I can't help thinking that 
> we in
> > Ontario - and perhaps many more jurisdictions in North America - 
> would do
> > well to re-shape policies concerning public alcohol consumption 
> along the
> > lines of those seen in much of Europe.  I can't underestimate how 
> necessary
> > it is to bring quality artisanal wine and beer into the mainstream by
> > emphasizing that these are culinary products; "art of the land", if you
> > will.  Without a change in overal mentality, I think there will 
> continue to
> > be an uphill battle because artisanal wines will just be seen as a 
> "special
> > occasion" thing; a knick-knack; something you get for someone on their
> > birthday or anniversary but nothing you'd ever dream of getting even 
> just
> > for yourself to have with supper.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> >
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