[Growwine] worm damage

[melissa lounsbury]

Your right Jim



----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lloyd <jiml5 at nexicom.net>
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:01:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] worm damage


Its not glycerine I don't think. It is a surfactant (artificial soap) that is used in a lot of these products. If you look at Roundup. It is Glyphosate and a surfactant. THey make things wetter and allow them to spread and wet surfaces with the active ingredient
 
Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: melissa lounsbury 
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] worm damage

Is there not a spreader-sticker to help hold the tobacco compound to the leaves.I know it had a glicerin background, the same as kids use to make bubbles. Maurice 



----- Original Message ----
From: "defaria at reztel.net" <defaria at reztel.net>
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com; Jim Lloyd <jiml5 at nexicom.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:39:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] worm damage

Quoting Jim Lloyd : 
BT is used for caterpillars and is organic I believe. Good old chemicals like Malathion or Diazanon would work too
I currently have a problem with Rose Chaefers. Some years I just let them do their number and they go away. - I come from a different attitude about insecticidal spray. - I am at the other end of the spectrum as far as using such chemicals as Malathion or Diazonon, unless the vines were in jeopardy. I certainly would not want to drink wine with such harsh chemicals. - I beleive one of the less damaging chemicals you can use is Ripkord? - Although I sometimes will use a cancoction of lemon dish soap, juice of lemon, and the water residue of steaped tobacco. - This is all good untill the next rain fall. - Just my thoughts...And totally understand if you rely on your crops heavily and use the traditional insecticides. - I think many grape growers overkill with chemicals. 
Hoping one day the label of wine bottles will have all the chemicals that were sprayed on them. - I think you would see consumers changing their buying habits.
Regards,
Duke DeFaria
PEC
 
Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Margaret Marshall 
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] worm damage

Hi Larry!  Sounds like gypsy moth?  There is some kind of spray that affects them biologically.  It is not a chemical.  An area adjacent to us was just aerial sprayed.  Can't tell you the name, but I bet Phil Ryan can.  Ciao, Margaret
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Larry Paterson 
To: Growwine List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: [Growwine] worm damage

We are having a problem with some small (about 1 cm long) black worms on the leaves.  In some cases they have almost defoliated entire vines.
 
What is available to fight these (safely) without special access to chemicals?
 
Lardy
 
Larry Paterson, lfw, rd, adcc
(Little Fat Wino, Roving Drunk, Alcohol Distribution Channels Critic)
 
http://www.littlefatwino.com/
 
 
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