[Growwine] Acreage necessary for on-site winery outside of DVA

[Paul Bulas]

That very fact needs to change if we are ever to have a true artisanal food/wine scene in the province.  Honestly, is there any reason why this minimum 5-acre requirement must exist?  Any rational reason why it can't be legally dissolved to permit smaller artisans from sprouting across the Ontarian landscape?


----- Original Message ----
From: Larry Paterson <littlefatwino1 at cogeco.ca>
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:24:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Acreage necessary for on-site winery outside of DVA


Garageists are illegal in Ontario (maybe a threat to LCBO record profits?)... speaking as President of the Amateur Winemakers of Canada I must oppose this government position.  There are probably 20 to 30 amateur winemakers in Canada who can make small quantities of superb wine, but cannot enter the market.
 
If you were to open a restaurant in Ontario under current winery legislation you would be required to have five acres of grazing beef if you wanted to sell hamburgers.  There is some doubt as to whether you would need a further five acres of grain for the buns, or five acres of mustard seed if using mustard.  God help you if you wanted your customers to have relish or ketchup or onions...
 
Larry Paterson,
President,
Amateur Winemakers of Canada
 

http://www.littlefatwino.com/awc.html

 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Bulas 
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Acreage necessary for on-site winery outside of DVA

Why would there even be a minimum?  Is 5 acres deemed to be the minimum acreage from which a profit can be made?  I would have thought that some fellow who even had an acre of fine terroir in some interesting nook along a tourist route should be able to start a garage winery, even if his output is tiny.  What gives?
 
That rule sounds like economics-based thinking to me, not wine-based thinking.



----- Original Message ----
From: Larry Paterson <littlefatwino1 at cogeco.ca>
To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Acreage necessary for on-site winery outside of DVA


Steven
 
the minimum acreage is 5 acres, though I'm not sure of an actual vine or fruit count.  There is a very scary but excellent publication from Ontario Ministry of Food and Rural Affairs called something like Starting a Winery in Ontario.  It is about $40 or so, worth it for sure.
 
Lardy
 
Larry Paterson, lfw, rd, adcc
(Little Fat Wino, Roving Drunk, Alcohol Distribution Channels Critic)
 
http://www.littlefatwino.com/
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: steven kett 
To: GrowWine 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: [Growwine] Acreage necessary for on-site winery outside of DVA
I am wondering what the is acreage necessary for developing an on-site winery outside of a DVA in Ontario? And does that acreage consider the vines per acre ratio (of lets say 625 vines an acre) or the area that the planting covers..?
Thanks Steve

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