[Growwine] soap shield

[Rob McDowell]

Laura,

Is the copper/soap mix your major tool against Black Rot (aside from 
good canopy management and sanitation)?  How often do you spray this 
mix?  Also what do you use to control grape flea beetles in a bad year 
(like this one for us)?

Thanks,

Rob

Laura wrote:
> It does seem strange that this product is only available for home gardeners. 
> I looked into it several years ago and nothing seems to have changed.
>
> I make a similar mix myself by tank mixing fixed copper and a natural soap 
> (Saponyn)  Their mix is proprietary but seems very similar.
>
> Laura / Feast of Fields
> certified organic since 1996
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob McDowell" <redwine at charter.net>
> To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] Flowering in Maine
>
>
>   
>> Steve,
>>
>> I looked into Soap Shield, and it's an intriguing product.  Interesting
>> that it's positioned as a home garden product vs a commercial one.  Is
>> the diff effectiveness or the fact that once you meet the organic
>> standards most growers will blast on the copper and sulfer, the more the
>> better?  I assume that you're also pursuing good sanitation practices,
>> enough by itself in a dry year for resistant varieties, but not this
>> freakin one.
>>
>> It's great that you're trying to put this together, I tried for awhile
>> but found "certifiable" organic daunting, especially for BR and downy in
>> a wet year.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> Steve Melchiskey wrote:
>>     
>>> Rob,
>>> I use Soap Shield for Black Rot. It is a fixed copper solution which
>>> I like better for the long term health of the vineyard. Cost per
>>> acre? Let me put my calculator on and I'll get back to you. Much
>>> depends on the season and rain, as you know. I also think that having
>>> Lime/Sulphered in the dormant season that I am in better shape than I
>>> was last year so I'm hoping for a little less spray over the season.
>>> best,
>>> steve
>>> maine coast vineyards
>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Rob McDowell wrote:
>>>
>>>       
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