[Growwine] soap shield

[Laura]

Copper spray at the label rate (although I use less I don't advocate that)
and Saponyn 2 oz per 100 gallons .... yes it'm imported

Laura

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Norene Hyatt-Gervais" <norenehgervais at sympatico.ca>
To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] soap shield


> Hi Laura and Ron,
> Is the mix 50/50?   Thanks Norene
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: growwine-bounces at littlefatwino.com
> [mailto:growwine-bounces at littlefatwino.com] On Behalf Of Laura
> Sent: June 25, 2008 12:23 PM
> To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] soap shield
>
> just copper oxychloride and saponyn
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Olinyk" <rono at mindlinktech.com>
> To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] soap shield
>
>
>> Hi Laura,
>> Would you be willing to share your copper/soap recipe?
>> Ron
>>
>> Laura wrote:
>>> It does seem strange that this product is only available for home
>>> gardeners.
>>> I looked into it several years ago and nothing seems to have changed.
>>>
>>> I make a similar mix myself by tank mixing fixed copper and a natural
>>> soap
>>> (Saponyn)  Their mix is proprietary but seems very similar.
>>>
>>> Laura / Feast of Fields
>>> certified organic since 1996
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rob McDowell" <redwine at charter.net>
>>> To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Growwine] Flowering in Maine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> I looked into Soap Shield, and it's an intriguing product.  Interesting
>>>> that it's positioned as a home garden product vs a commercial one.  Is
>>>> the diff effectiveness or the fact that once you meet the organic
>>>> standards most growers will blast on the copper and sulfer, the more 
>>>> the
>>>> better?  I assume that you're also pursuing good sanitation practices,
>>>> enough by itself in a dry year for resistant varieties, but not this
>>>> freakin one.
>>>>
>>>> It's great that you're trying to put this together, I tried for awhile
>>>> but found "certifiable" organic daunting, especially for BR and downy 
>>>> in
>>>> a wet year.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> Steve Melchiskey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rob,
>>>>> I use Soap Shield for Black Rot. It is a fixed copper solution which
>>>>> I like better for the long term health of the vineyard. Cost per
>>>>> acre? Let me put my calculator on and I'll get back to you. Much
>>>>> depends on the season and rain, as you know. I also think that having
>>>>> Lime/Sulphered in the dormant season that I am in better shape than I
>>>>> was last year so I'm hoping for a little less spray over the season.
>>>>> best,
>>>>> steve
>>>>> maine coast vineyards
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Rob McDowell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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