[Growwine] Birds

[Alain Breault]

The topsoil wasnt built like that . When we bought the farm it was all in 
standard appletree and before that 170 year before it was the original 
forest. Anyway I think that the topsoil was never exposed to air and the OM 
was not destroyed. Under that is 5 feet of gravel
Alain
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura" <laura-sabourin at sympatico.ca>
To: <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Birds


sorry my question was not clear
How did you build your soil to 9% OM ?

Laura

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alain Breault" <coquine at endirect.qc.ca>
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Birds


I know from Isabelle Turcotte that every % of OM over 3 give 15 lbs of N per
acre . So 90 pound of N give me very vigorous vines but surprisignly easy to
manage , more side pruning in summer but wood hardening not  problem. Except
in the low part it is fully hardy
Alain
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura" <laura-sabourin at sympatico.ca>
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:47 AM
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WOW 9% OM , how did you manage that ?

Laura

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alain Breault" <coquine at endirect.qc.ca>
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Birds


We have 9% OM soil so the 3th year we can leave a good 3 tons per acre with
Frontenac here in St-Paul d'Abbotsford .
Alain Breault
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Paterson" <littlefatwino at trytel.net>
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: [Growwine] Birds




-----Original Message-----
From: "khoshkiw" <khoshkiw at hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:46 AM
To: "growwine at littlefatwino.com" <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Subject: RE: [Growwine] Birds

I would not push for grapes for 3 years regardless of the location. You need
to drop the crop on purpose in order to give them enough time to establish a
healthy root system and trunk. Push them too hard too fast and you may have
problems down the road in regards to winter hardiness and then die back and
problems like crown gall can set in. Therefore you do not need nets for
quite some time.


-----Original Message-----
From: "growwine-bounces at littlefatwino.com"
<growwine-bounces at littlefatwino.com> on behalf of "Michele Roberge"
<fleurdelis at gwi.net>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:30 AM
To: "growwine at littlefatwino.com" <growwine at littlefatwino.com>
Subject: Re: [Growwine] Birds

Because no one has tried grapes in my location I'm testing Frontenac,
Frontenac gris, St. Croix, Sabrevois, King of the North and Trollhaugen.
Soil is sandy loam, granite ledges run north south and will need to be
planted around, close to ocean so salt may be a factor.
Michele

Gilles Harbour writes:

> You don't have to buy nets before you get grapes in 2010 or if you're
> lucky and have a very special soil in 2009.
>
> How many vines will you plant and what varietals?
>
>
> Gilles
> Clos des Vieux Chï¿œnes
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Michele Roberge
>   To: growwine at littlefatwino.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:54 AM
>   Subject: [Growwine] Birds
>
>
>   Greetings!
>
>   I am planting my first vines this spring.  What is your advice for bird
> control?  Should I buy miles of netting?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Michele
>
>
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