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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Paul Bulas <pabls@yahoo.com><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:53:44 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<BR><BR>
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<P>Very true - and it would make sense, showing that making wine is largely about ... farming! </P>
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<P>I love the way that they use the words "wine farm" in South Africa quite a bit. Everywhere else, the language tends to be more uppity. Maybe tying in wine with farming would be a great first step in the right direction.</P>
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<P>Is there anything other than red tape holding this back at present?</P>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: melissa lounsbury <baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:48:20 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<BR><BR>
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<DIV>It would be nice to sell wine at the farmers market.We where at the one in St Jacobs an Ocalo had their wine for sale there. We sold a quanity of our vines this year to be made into juice an to be sold at the welland an Niagara farmers market. Maurice <BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Ryan <ryan.daum@gmail.com><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:06:22 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<BR><BR>This speaks to a bigger question, I think; while I like wine from<BR>diverse regions and especially from close to home, I do think there is<BR>probably a hard economic limit on the feasibility of wine production<BR>"everywhere." I think you touch on this, but it may be that beyond<BR>the problems of the LCBO monopoly and regulatory problems in Ontario<BR>there just isn't much of a market for wine that may be produced if<BR>those regulations were to be loosened.<BR><BR>That said, I just wish it was possible to produce and market<BR>small-scale wine in Ontario just like any other food product -- at<BR>farmer's markets, etc. I would love to
have a couple acres of grapes<BR>and make wine part-time, and be able to sell it to friends, at market,<BR>etc.<BR><BR>Ryan<BR><BR>On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Bulas <<A href="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com">pabls@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> Lately I've been thinking that some of the obstacles to getting a true<BR>> artisanal wine culture started across Ontario might stem from the overall<BR>> views toward alcohol - in addition to the regulatory obstacles we discussed<BR>> last week (e.g. 5-acre minimum, etc.). We now have grape varieties that<BR>> work across much of Central Ontario - so the viticultural difficulties are<BR>> being fast addressed. But what about the cultural aspects in general?<BR>> Would an overall liberalization of views about public alcohol consumption<BR>> help a fledgling artisanal wine industry?<BR>><BR>> Each country has
its unique history, but I can't help thinking that we in<BR>> Ontario - and perhaps many more jurisdictions in North America - would do<BR>> well to re-shape policies concerning public alcohol consumption along the<BR>> lines of those seen in much of Europe. I can't underestimate how necessary<BR>> it is to bring quality artisanal wine and beer into the mainstream by<BR>> emphasizing that these are culinary products; "art of the land", if you<BR>> will. Without a change in overal mentality, I think there will continue to<BR>> be an uphill battle because artisanal wines will just be seen as a "special<BR>> occasion" thing; a knick-knack; something you get for someone on their<BR>> birthday or anniversary but nothing you'd ever dream of getting even just<BR>> for yourself to have with supper.<BR>><BR>> Any thoughts?<BR>><BR>><BR>> ________________________________<BR>> Ask a question on any topic
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