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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Neil <neil@coffinridge.ca><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 2:13:17 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Check their website <A href="http://ocalawinery.com/" target=_blank>ocalawinery.com</A>, They do not have a sparkling wine rater three juices.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com [mailto:growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>melissa lounsbury<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 2, 2008 12:44<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Growwine] Ontario 's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I know they had that to, but it was a sparking wine.At the time Is should have bought it an brought it home. The price was 18.00 per bottle. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Neil <neil@coffinridge.ca><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 12:36:27 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario 's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ocala</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> makes sparkling juice too. This is likely what you saw. It is in a 750 ml bottle with cage.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Neil</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com [mailto:growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>melissa lounsbury<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 2, 2008 12:12<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Growwine] Ontario 's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I have no idea.The people where not from Ocala because I asked if they where some of the family. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Ryan <ryan.daum@gmail.com><BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 12:03:09 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario 's drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<BR><BR>How did Ocala have their wine for sale at St Jacob's? Not legal is it?<BR><BR>Ryan<BR><BR>On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM, melissa lounsbury<BR><<A href="mailto:baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca">baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca</A>> wrote:<BR>> It would be nice to sell wine at the farmers market.We where at the one in<BR>> St Jacobs an Ocalo had their wine for sale there. We sold a quanity of our<BR>> vines this year to be made into juice an to be sold at the welland an<BR>> Niagara farmers market. Maurice<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message
----<BR>> From: Ryan <<A href="mailto:ryan.daum@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:ryan.daum@gmail.com">ryan.daum@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To: <A href="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com">growwine@littlefatwino.com</A><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:06:22 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Growwine] Ontario 's drinking culture: A big part of the<BR>> battle?<BR>><BR>> This speaks to a bigger question, I think; while I like wine from<BR>> diverse regions and especially from close to home, I do think there is<BR>> probably a hard economic limit on the feasibility of wine production<BR>> "everywhere." I think you touch on this, but it may be that beyond<BR>> the problems of the LCBO monopoly and regulatory problems in Ontario<BR>> there just isn't much of a market for wine that may be produced if<BR>> those regulations were to be
loosened.<BR>><BR>> That said, I just wish it was possible to produce and market<BR>> small-scale wine in Ontario just like any other food product -- at<BR>> farmer's markets, etc. I would love to have a couple acres of grapes<BR>> and make wine part-time, and be able to sell it to friends, at market,<BR>> etc.<BR>><BR>> Ryan<BR>><BR>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Bulas <<A href="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com">pabls@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>> Lately I've been thinking that some of the obstacles to getting a true<BR>>> artisanal wine culture started across Ontario might stem from the overall<BR>>> views toward alcohol - in addition to the regulatory obstacles we<BR>>> discussed<BR>>> last week (e.g. 5-acre minimum, etc.). We now have grape varieties that<BR>>> work across much of Central Ontario - so the
viticultural difficulties are<BR>>> being fast addressed. But what about the cultural aspects in general?<BR>>> Would an overall liberalization of views about public alcohol consumption<BR>>> help a fledgling artisanal wine industry?<BR>>><BR>>> Each country has its unique history, but I can't help thinking that we in<BR>>> Ontario - and perhaps many more jurisdictions in North America - would do<BR>>> well to re-shape policies concerning public alcohol consumption along the<BR>>> lines of those seen in much of Europe . I can't underestimate how<BR>>> necessary<BR>>> it is to bring quality artisanal wine and beer into the mainstream by<BR>>> emphasizing that these are culinary products; "art of the land", if you<BR>>> will. Without a change in overal mentality, I think there will continue<BR>>> to<BR>>> be an uphill battle because artisanal wines will
just be seen as a<BR>>> "special<BR>>> occasion" thing; a knick-knack; something you get for someone on their<BR>>> birthday or anniversary but nothing you'd ever dream of getting even just<BR>>> for yourself to have with supper.<BR>>><BR>>> Any thoughts?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ________________________________<BR>>> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo!<BR>>> Answers.<BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Growwine mailing list<BR>>> <A href="mailto:Growwine@littlefatwino.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:Growwine@littlefatwino.com">Growwine@littlefatwino.com</A><BR>>> <A href="http://lists.littlefatwino.com/mailman/listinfo/growwine" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://lists.littlefatwino.com/mailman/listinfo/growwine</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>
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