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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Ocala</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> makes sparkling juice too. This is likely what you saw. It is in a
750 ml bottle with cage.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com [mailto:growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>melissa lounsbury<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> July 2, 2008 12:12<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">growwine@littlefatwino.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Growwine] <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State>'s drinking
culture: A big part of the battle?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
14.0pt'>I have no idea.The people where not from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Ocala</st1:place></st1:City> because I asked if they where some of
the family. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Ryan <ryan.daum@gmail.com><br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">growwine@littlefatwino.com</st1:PersonName><br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 12:03:09 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Growwine] <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State>'s
drinking culture: A big part of the battle?<br>
<br>
How did <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ocala</st1:place></st1:City>
have their wine for sale at St Jacob's? Not legal is it?<br>
<br>
Ryan<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM, melissa lounsbury<br>
<<a href="mailto:baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca"
ymailto="mailto:baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca">baileyandtrent2@yahoo.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
> It would be nice to sell wine at the farmers market.We where at the one in<br>
> St Jacobs an Ocalo had their wine for sale there. We sold a quanity of our<br>
> vines this year to be made into juice an to be sold at the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">welland</st1:place></st1:City> an<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on">Niagara</st1:place> farmers market. Maurice<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message ----<br>
> From: Ryan <<a href="mailto:ryan.daum@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:ryan.daum@gmail.com">ryan.daum@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com"
ymailto="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com">growwine@littlefatwino.com</a><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:06:22 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Growwine] <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State>'s
drinking culture: A big part of the<br>
> battle?<br>
><br>
> This speaks to a bigger question, I think; while I like wine from<br>
> diverse regions and especially from close to home, I do think there is<br>
> probably a hard economic limit on the feasibility of wine production<br>
> "everywhere." I think you touch on this, but it may be
that beyond<br>
> the problems of the LCBO monopoly and regulatory problems in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State><br>
> there just isn't much of a market for wine that may be produced if<br>
> those regulations were to be loosened.<br>
><br>
> That said, I just wish it was possible to produce and market<br>
> small-scale wine in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State>
just like any other food product -- at<br>
> farmer's markets, etc. I would love to have a couple acres of grapes<br>
> and make wine part-time, and be able to sell it to friends, at market,<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Bulas <<a
href="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:pabls@yahoo.com">pabls@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> Lately I've been thinking that some of the obstacles to getting a true<br>
>> artisanal wine culture started across <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Ontario</st1:place></st1:State> might stem from the overall<br>
>> views toward alcohol - in addition to the regulatory obstacles we<br>
>> discussed<br>
>> last week (e.g. 5-acre minimum, etc.). We now have grape
varieties that<br>
>> work across much of <st1:place w:st="on">Central Ontario</st1:place> -
so the viticultural difficulties are<br>
>> being fast addressed. But what about the cultural aspects in
general?<br>
>> Would an overall liberalization of views about public alcohol
consumption<br>
>> help a fledgling artisanal wine industry?<br>
>><br>
>> Each country has its unique history, but I can't help thinking that we
in<br>
>> <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State> - and perhaps many more
jurisdictions in <st1:place w:st="on">North America</st1:place> - would do<br>
>> well to re-shape policies concerning public alcohol consumption along
the<br>
>> lines of those seen in much of <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>.
I can't underestimate how<br>
>> necessary<br>
>> it is to bring quality artisanal wine and beer into the mainstream by<br>
>> emphasizing that these are culinary products; "art of the
land", if you<br>
>> will. Without a change in overal mentality, I think there will
continue<br>
>> to<br>
>> be an uphill battle because artisanal wines will just be seen as a<br>
>> "special<br>
>> occasion" thing; a knick-knack; something you get for someone on
their<br>
>> birthday or anniversary but nothing you'd ever dream of getting even
just<br>
>> for yourself to have with supper.<br>
>><br>
>> Any thoughts?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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