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<P>Larry, this vineyard plot is a much smaller scale area. There are 16 rows a little over 200 feet long and 8 feet apart high density planted at 30 inch spacing. Yes I expect alot of hedging and cluster thinning but the idea is to go for less fruit of better quality per vine and yield prety much the same tonnage per acre but nowhere near enough to fill that monster press Muro has for sale ! When installing the plastic mulch my bedder/layer has the option to install drip tubing under the mulch. This is the easiest and most cost efficient irrigation and I will likely&nbsp; not have to use it at all next year as the roots will be deep enough unless we hit a real dry spell and if we do it's there.</P>
<P>Doug.</P>
<P>Luskville, QC<br>

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<B>On Mon 04/08/08 08:20 , "Larry Paterson" littlefatwino1@cogeco.ca sent:<br>

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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Doug&nbsp; a question</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How far apart are your vines, and what spacing between the rows?&nbsp; If you are feeding them more than a tiny amount you may end up spending the rest of your life with a hedge trimmer...</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Lardy</DIV>
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<DIV>Larry Paterson, lfw, rd, adcc<br>

(Little Fat Wino, Roving Drunk, Alcohol Distribution Channels Critic)</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dbriden@magma.ca href="mailto:dbriden@magma.ca">Doug Briden</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=growwine@littlefatwino.com href="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com">growwine@littlefatwino.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 04, 2008 12:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Growwine] Normal growth?</DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">Anthony&nbsp;Carone&nbsp;wrote&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000">You&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;fine&nbsp;unless&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;planted&nbsp;on&nbsp;plastic&nbsp;mulch&nbsp;or&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;an&nbsp;ill-draining&nbsp;site. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: #ff0000"></SPAN>I&nbsp;planted&nbsp;Frontenac&nbsp;in&nbsp;plastic&nbsp;this&nbsp;spring&nbsp;ad&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;process&nbsp;of&nbsp;installing&nbsp;trellis&nbsp;due&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;vigour&nbsp;of&nbsp;these&nbsp;plants&nbsp;most&nbsp;of&nbsp;which&nbsp;exceed&nbsp;4&nbsp;feet&nbsp;and&nbsp;many&nbsp;over&nbsp;6&nbsp;feet. I&nbsp;can't&nbsp;cut&nbsp;the&nbsp;grass&nbsp;between&nbsp;the&nbsp;rows&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;tops&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;vines&nbsp;have&nbsp;grown&nbsp;well&nbsp;beyond&nbsp;the&nbsp;planting&nbsp;stakes&nbsp;we&nbsp;put&nbsp;in&nbsp;to&nbsp;hold&nbsp;them&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;first&nbsp;year. The&nbsp;wood&nbsp;is&nbsp;already&nbsp;starting&nbsp;to&nbsp;harden&nbsp;off&nbsp;nicely. Due to the amount of rain I have only irrigated twice this year via drip tape beneath the plastic and the second irrigation was primarily for feeding as the vines had enough water. I'll try to post a few pictures this week if I get the time.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
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<DIV>Doug.</DIV>
<DIV>Luskville,QC</DIV>
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<B>On&nbsp;Sun&nbsp;03/08/08&nbsp;11:19 , Canada&nbsp;Vintage&nbsp;canadavintage@hotmail.com&nbsp;sent:<br>

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<DEFANGED_BODY class=hmmessage>You&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;fine&nbsp;unless&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;planted&nbsp;on&nbsp;plastic&nbsp;mulch&nbsp;or&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;an&nbsp;ill-draining&nbsp;site. <br>

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Pull&nbsp;a&nbsp;vine&nbsp;out&nbsp;and&nbsp;see&nbsp;if&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;whitish&nbsp;fungus&nbsp;growing&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;roots. If&nbsp;so, <br>

then, I&nbsp;would&nbsp;expect&nbsp;you&nbsp;may&nbsp;have&nbsp;root&nbsp;rot&nbsp;occurring&nbsp;on&nbsp;account&nbsp;of&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;water.<br>

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Canada&nbsp;Vintage - Carone&nbsp;Vineyards, a&nbsp;division&nbsp;of&nbsp;Carone&nbsp;Enterprises<br>

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From: nicholas.carriere@videotron.ca<br>

To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<br>

Date: Sun, 3&nbsp;Aug&nbsp;2008&nbsp;10:48:42 -0400<br>

Subject: [Growwine] Normal&nbsp;growth?<br>

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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good&nbsp;morning,</SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m&nbsp;new&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;viticulture&nbsp;field&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;planted&nbsp;200&nbsp;new&nbsp;plants (Frontenac, Sabrevois, Louise&nbsp;Swenson&nbsp;and&nbsp;ES&nbsp;6-16-30)&nbsp;in&nbsp;June. Unfortunately&nbsp;with&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;rain&nbsp;we're&nbsp;having (30&nbsp;days&nbsp;of&nbsp;rain&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;last&nbsp;2&nbsp;months), I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;going&nbsp;very&nbsp;well. After&nbsp;2&nbsp;months&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;averaging&nbsp;14&nbsp;inches&nbsp;in&nbsp;height&nbsp;with&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;them&nbsp;around&nbsp;24&nbsp;inches. Is&nbsp;this&nbsp;normal&nbsp;considering&nbsp;the&nbsp;weather? Does&nbsp;anyone&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;problem&nbsp;this&nbsp;year? In&nbsp;perfect&nbsp;conditions&nbsp;how&nbsp;tall&nbsp;should&nbsp;they&nbsp;be&nbsp;after&nbsp;2&nbsp;months?</SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks</SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Nicholas&nbsp;Carrière</SPAN></P>
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