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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com [mailto:growwine-bounces@littlefatwino.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Burt Dunn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 02, 2008
6:38 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> growwine@littlefatwino.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Growwine] Vitis
vinifera- Gould</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have grown Ortega for 10 + years with no winter protection
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font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Have had -32C and -29C in the last 5 years</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The best growth was after the winter with -32'C</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Mind you, I only get enough grapes to taste
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Bert Dunn <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Box
352</st1:Street> <st1:City w:st="on">Schomberg</st1:City>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">L0G 1T0</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>
zone 4b/5a <br>
Think Blending Not Varietals<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:petersalonius@hotmail.com" title="petersalonius@hotmail.com">peter
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:growwine@littlefatwino.com" title="growwine@littlefatwino.com">growwine@littlefatwino.com</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, September
02, 2008 8:23 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Growwine] Vitis
vinifera- Gould<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Mike<br>
<br>
It fascinates me when people insist on growing vinifera and have no apparent
interest in excellent hybrids that are generally more cold hardy ---- however
---- IF I PROTECT MY VINIFERA AGAINST THE POSSIBILITY OF -35 C temperatures
that can ocurr after a mid winter thaw has removed all of the snow cover ---<br>
<br>
I can grow and ripen such VINIFERA crosses as:<br>
<br>
Schoenburger<br>
Wuerzer<br>
Riechensteiner<br>
Ortega<br>
Madeline Angevine<br>
Zefir<br>
Siegerrebe<br>
Perle of Csaba<br>
Frueburgunder<br>
Agria<br>
Dornfelder and <br>
Zweigelt<br>
<br>
---the latter two are late ripening enough that I get sweet fruit only in the
best years<br>
when the Growing Degree Days total more than 1000.<br>
<br>
--see my list at <a href="http://www.littlefatwino.com/peterslist.html">http://www.littlefatwino.com/peterslist.html</a>
<br>
<br>
?? What did not work ---- KERNER was much to late ripening / I dug it all out.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Peter Salonius<br>
<br>
Zone 4b in central <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New Brunswick</st1:place></st1:State><br>
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======================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: mike@mlgould.com<br>
To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<br>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:29:34 -0600<br>
Subject: [Growwine] vitae vinifera<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can any of you northern growers direct me
to any info on growing vitae vinifera in cold climes. I would also be
particularly interested in any success and failures anyone may have had in
trying to do so. What worked and what didn’t.</span></font><font size=2
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