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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have grown Ortega for 10 + years with no winter
protection of any kind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Have had -32C and -29C in the last 5 years</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The best growth was after the winter with
-32'C</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>How come??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mind you, I only get enough grapes to taste
'em. Cheers </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Bert Dunn Box 352 Schomberg L0G
1T0 zone 4b/5a <BR>Think Blending Not
Varietals</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Growwine] Vitis vinifera-
Gould</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Mike<BR> <BR>It fascinates me when people insist on
growing vinifera and have no apparent interest in excellent hybrids that are
generally more cold hardy ---- however ---- IF I PROTECT MY VINIFERA AGAINST
THE POSSIBILITY OF -35 C temperatures that can ocurr after a mid winter thaw
has removed all of the snow cover ---<BR> <BR>I can grow and ripen such
VINIFERA crosses
as:<BR> <BR>Schoenburger<BR>Wuerzer<BR>Riechensteiner<BR>Ortega<BR>Madeline
Angevine<BR>Zefir<BR>Siegerrebe<BR>Perle of
Csaba<BR>Frueburgunder<BR>Agria<BR>Dornfelder and
<BR>Zweigelt<BR> <BR>---the latter two are late ripening enough that I
get sweet fruit only in the best years<BR>when the Growing Degree Days total
more than 1000.<BR> <BR>--see my list at <A
href="http://www.littlefatwino.com/peterslist.html">http://www.littlefatwino.com/peterslist.html</A>
<BR> <BR>?? What did not work ---- KERNER was much to late ripening / I
dug it all out.<BR> <BR>Cheers<BR> <BR>Peter
Salonius<BR> <BR>Zone 4b in central New
Brunswick<BR><BR>======================================================<BR>
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<BR>From: mike@mlgould.com<BR>To: growwine@littlefatwino.com<BR>Date: Tue, 2
Sep 2008 13:29:34 -0600<BR>Subject: [Growwine] vitae vinifera<BR><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can any of you
northern growers direct me to any info on growing vitae vinifera in cold
climes.<SPAN> </SPAN>I would also be particularly interested in any
success and failures anyone may have had in trying to do so.<SPAN>
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