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My theory is we see the opposite of 2001 or 2002, which was pretty dry after
veraison.  vinifera kept pushing sugars, riparia-influenced hybrids stalled,
suffering of the dry spell. I remember  sabrevois just doin' nothing until we
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Riparia means rivergrape. Likely riparias and derivatives just really like moist
soils(like riverbanks) and in nature, those riparia grow up trees, often in
partial shade, don't they ?   Also, maybe you guys' vines are just getting
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Would have been fun to have a vinifera around to compared ( Regent only
set a couple, smallish bunch). Don't know about amuriensis natural
environnemnt.  Anyway, too tired to pull out my plant physiology textbook.</span></font>
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As for numbers, In Compton, eastern Townships of Quebec, on Aug 31st, at
my small 150 vines yard</span></font>
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Normal crop load:</span></font>
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Brianna: 13.8 B ( neglected. should have been hedged, leafpulled,
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Radisson 11.2 B (idem. also uneven véraison. ugly ugly ugly)</span></font>
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DM8521-1: 19.2 B (in 2007: 21.6 B with a very light crop on Sept
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Very light crop:</span></font>
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Louise 14</span></font>
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Prairie 14.4</span></font>
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10-18-30 17.4</span></font>
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Somerset 16.2</span></font>
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Fairly clean with several copper sprays except for quite a bit of anthranose in
Brianna and some rotbrenner in Radisson. Also localized treehopper
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As for DM I think it just really like low training ( got the fruiting wire at 14
inches). now I just need to tame wine out of the beast</span></font>
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On 2 Sep 2008 at 19:05, Steve Melchiskey wrote:</span></font>
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> I'm chiming in here with Anthony.....August, for us, brought 4 inches of rain more than normal, the </span></font>
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> first three weeks we had 65F temperatures as highs, and no sun, The first August day over 80F </span></font>
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> wasn't until mid-late August and only 3 days for the MONTH over 80F. Bad, bad bad for organic </span></font>
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> fungicides, like pureeing $10 bills and spraying them in the vineyard.....but for me, this may be the </span></font>
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> best Brix I've ever had at this point in the season. Many summers have been way better weather </span></font>
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> but no verasion at all at this point in the season. We are in full verasion now, with Brix from 10 to </span></font>
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> 17 and still a month+ to go. very, very weird.... steve </span></font>
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> maine coast vineyards</span></font>
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> On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Canada Vintage wrote: </span></font>
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>     so I am not the only one experiencing a rapid increase in ripeness in the last </span></font>
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>     few weeks!</span></font>
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>     Can someone explain how this is possible? We have had next to nothing in </span></font>
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>     sun and yet these grapes seem to have a mind of their own.</span></font>
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>     I guess frequent rain/irrigation does help after all!</span></font>
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>     Anthony Carone (Zone 4b-5a)</span></font>
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>     Canada Vintage - Carone Vineyards, a division of Carone Enterprises</span></font>
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>     > From: coquine@endirect.qc.ca</span></font>
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>     > To: growwine@littlefatwino.com</span></font>
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>     > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:49:08 -0400</span></font>
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>     > Subject: Re: [Growwine] Foch grapes Brix</span></font>
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>     > Baltica 21 brix ,pick 22 Aug.</span></font>
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>     > Skandia 20 pick 22 Aug</span></font>
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>     > DM 8521-1 21 pick 1 Sept</span></font>
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>     > ES 10-18-30 21 pick 1 Sept</span></font>
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>     > Alain Breault St-Paul D'Abbotsford ,Quebec</span></font>
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>     > ----- Original Message -----</span></font>
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>     > From: "St-Jean, Rob (ES)" <RStJean@NRCan.gc.ca></span></font>
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